Clydesdale Media Podcast

Every day we take a breath from our normal work day to hang out with friends and talk about the world of Sports, Entertainment and specifically CrossFit.  Today we talk about Rich Froning's appearance on Coffee, Pods & Wods. The NFL is back!  Outside the Box Show killed it yesterday, I visited the "New" Barn. Wooley shows up on In the Box Office.

What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

what's going on everybody

did so yeah yeah it's I'm

so jazzed so jazzed I can't

even get it out it's Friday

lunchtime whoo what's going

on everybody what is going

on I am back with a new do

finally first haircut in a

while um we got a full

house already Corey Megan Tristan

ken joseph meredith mr sten

in the house what is going

on everybody let's do a

quick dart throw oh that

may have been my best

effort in a while shanna in

the house here we go here

we go all right um

Let's jump off quick.

This happened this morning,

as far as I know.

That is that BKG made a post

about the sale of CrossFit

Reykjavik and his side of it.

So...

Here it is.

Pretty nice post.

Talks about myself and a

group of my friends have

purchased CrossFit

Reykjavik and have

officially taken over the reins.

I've taken on the role of

head coach and thus far I'm

enjoying it immensely.

It's not all new to me to coach.

Throughout my CrossFit career,

I've strived to coach a few

hours a week when possible.

It's always been important

to me to be amongst the

people in the gym and feel

that I am able to give a

little bit back to the

community for all the

opportunities I've been

able to have throughout the sport.

Isn't that a great thing to

say about the community and

their support and being an

athlete and having that

support and now trying to give back?

I think those are the key

components we need to kind

of move forward.

He also then goes on to say

that he is far from retirement.

He still wants to compete.

I'm missing that part, but there it is.

Okay, got to scroll.

That's what you got to do on a Friday.

Now that I'm fast becoming

one of the senior citizens

in the ranks of active elite competitors,

I've been weighing up what

to do once I hang up my shoes.

Going deeper into coaching

and operating a business

with some of my best

friends sounds like a

perfect next step for me.

But rest assured,

I'm not even remotely

considering retirement from

competition yet.

While I feel great and still

love everything about the process,

I will keep on competing

and chasing my dreams on

the competition floor

alongside my new role.

so super cool there um good

to see him giving back to

the community being a part

of the community um really

cool to uh you guys are too

much man uh maybe kg will

provide water now maybe

Um, see me rolling.

I know I hate you have an agenda,

but can someone tell me why

we can't say community anymore?

And we're supposed to say culture.

I missed the memo.

I don't know.

I must've missed it too.

Um, I just, I still say community.

Um,

that's what it was when I started in

and I'm old.

So change is hard for me and

I'll probably keep saying it for the next

That's just how I know it.

I'm sorry.

So I must have missed it to see me.

I'm sorry.

Jake is in the house.

I actually have you on my agenda.

If you guys did not see the

head-to-head yesterday with

Kate Lawrence and Claire

Bays on their show,

that was some of the best

internet TV I've watched in a while.

What a competition right

down to the very end,

one rep difference between the two.

Um,

it was really fun to watch.

If you get a good competition, um,

with some fun people,

it can be a fun thing.

Uh, and so yesterday on, uh,

outside the box show, uh,

with Yon and Jake,

that head to head was freaking awesome.

Uh, one of the best thing I was,

one of the best things I

saw on the internet yesterday.

So go check it out.

Um,

Okay.

That was nasty.

They both did great.

They did.

And that workout sucked for me.

I'm a big guy.

I was pretty much like Kate

when I did it back in

twenty with muscle snatches

probably to start and then

just died on the burpees.

So.

Yeah, great, great workout,

great battle for them yesterday.

That was freaking awesome.

So the other thing is last

night we had the NFL back.

We did our fantasy draft

here on Clydesdale Media on

Wednesday night.

I'm already out to a big

lead against Joe Vela,

and super excited to go

into the weekend with that league.

We have a twelve team league

in the Clydesdale media universe.

So it's going to be fun to

keep up with that throughout the year.

Super excited there.

What else do we got?

So much has been going on.

Last night I went to Rudy Berger's house.

Well, not his house, his barn.

He has built a barn to be

able to work out in because

they're part of a community

that has a very small gym.

And that small gym,

they didn't want to take up spots if...

needed to get a workout in

or whatever so they they

went with some partners and

bought a barn and built a

little workout facility for

them to be able to do some

like some of their workouts

in so they didn't have to

worry about pushing people

out of the affiliate and I

went there last night and

I'm just going to share a

little bit with it it's

going to be a full little

video that'll come out

probably in a few days um

but here's a little snip of it

And the play button is right

behind what I know.

What are your favorite parts of the barn?

Yeah, so really my favorite parts are,

actually I'll show you the

best part here.

If you walk over here and

take a look up above,

this steel I-beam that's

installed there was part of

a tractor engine hoist.

that was originally in this

barn and it was a really

big contraption and we ripped it all out,

but I wanted to kind of

save a piece of it.

And I was like, perfect.

I'll mount it right at the

feet height for rope climbs

and bring muscle ups.

And that'll be kind of like

an old piece of the barn

that we kind of look at.

So it's kind of unique.

It's like rusty and you know,

cool looking.

My favorite part is this post.

that we get people to sign when they come.

So you gotta sign it before.

We make, we usually make people work out,

but we'll, you know,

you're technically working.

So anybody that comes and

visits gets to sign the

post and it's just really cool.

Some people are best to do,

some people talk a little trash.

But yeah.

The triple.

I can see that.

Yeah.

so that is um their barn if

people don't know rudy is a

three-time masters age

group athlete champion um

and podium in our fourth

year so forty to forty four

he has won it three

different times and he took

third in twenty twenty four

so twenty twenty two twenty

three and twenty five champion um

Oh, I like the autograph post.

Yeah, it's really cool.

And his mentor and one of

their friends is Scott Pancheck.

So his his signatures on the post.

Scott actually worked out in

this barn right before the

Masters games this year.

They had some people come

from out of town.

They had someone come from

Ireland and they all worked

out in the barn before the

age group CrossFit games.

So it's a cool little thing.

And they built like a little

back hangout area with some seating,

a barbecue pit, a place for a bonfire.

So it can be like a total hangout.

And Lana Marcin actually

asked me to ask about master's camps.

like training camps,

and they're actually

thinking about doing that,

making it a place for

masters athletes to come together,

train together, do little training camps,

and all that's in this

little thing where we talked.

And I pretty much just let the camera run.

We talked for probably, I don't know,

forty-five minutes or so,

walking around where I recorded,

and then I just got to cut

it up so that it makes sense.

Is Rudy in witness protection?

Just kidding, Scott.

Tell him to shoot video with

the cameraman's back to the sun.

So they don't have lights in

the gym in the barn yet.

They just got they just

passed inspection maybe two days ago,

three days ago, something like that.

So we didn't have lights in the gym.

Most of the video is shot on

the back deck in the sunlight,

and the lighting is much, much better.

But for the beginning of it,

just as they were kind of

showing me around,

it's a little bit dark.

And that's on me, not on them.

But I wanted to get at least

some shots inside the barn.

But most of this is done on

the back patio with good lighting.

And I'll just show you what

most of it looks like here, Fergie.

So you can see this is most of the video.

So I did take that into account,

but I didn't want to miss

getting some shots inside

the gym before we went out and talked.

Um, so there, man,

lots of buttons to push today.

So I do want to talk and I,

and I saw some stuff already in here.

Um, I watched Mason Caitlin's, uh, or Kate,

um,

Mason Kate's show last night with John

Wooley.

I watched it in its entirety, um,

during the rain delay of

the football game.

And, um,

It, man, it was so frustrating to watch.

It was so frustrating to watch because,

and I need to pull out my

phone because I took notes

as I was waiting,

and I wanted them to make

sure I had everything.

And I kind of said this in

the chat on Savan.

The pretense that they had

was that because Will Morad

was a nicer guy than Dave Castro,

the WFP is better.

And there's no logic to that.

Nobody said that X company

was better because their CEO was nicer.

Like it's,

are you doing the things it

takes to be a better organization?

And so when you're going in

with that pretense,

like everything else

doesn't make a lot of sense

then after that.

And every question to John

Wooley about it was very leading.

They led with their opinion and,

And then do they agree?

Does he agree or disagree with them?

And oftentimes he disagreed.

I thought John Woolley

handled the interview.

They said it wasn't an interview.

It was just a back and forth discussion.

But Woolley handled it well.

And he actually brought up

some points that made a lot

of sense to me.

that haven't really been said out loud,

and that is that really the

WFP is a farm system for CrossFit.

That is what it can be at

its best right now is a farm system.

Give opportunities to young

athletes to see what they can do,

give them competition experience,

and prep them for the

CrossFit game season later.

That is what they can be at

their best right now.

Because the CrossFit Games

have something that they don't,

and that is a legacy.

That all these kids growing

up who want to be CrossFit

Games athletes want to do

it because Rich was awesome,

because Matt was awesome,

because Tia was awesome.

And they want to be like that.

They want to beat their records.

They want to have that legacy.

Champions want to go where champions are.

And the WFP cannot, you cannot buy that.

The other pretense that

really fires me up is that

they believe that they're

doing well for only being

three to six months in, whatever it is.

You had fifteen years of

watching somebody else do it first.

You are not at ground zero.

You watch these other people.

All of your...

C-suite people were in

CrossFit and experienced it.

They've lived it.

They've watched it and they've seen it.

And they told us because of that,

they were going to be

better and they were going

to come out and be better.

And that has not happened.

You can't now backtrack that, hey,

we're just getting started.

You're the one that came out

boasting that you were

going to be better.

It is utterly ridiculous,

some of the pretenses they

have in these conversations.

And the biggest thing is

they came out and said

these things and didn't

follow through with promises.

And so now you've lost trust.

We're not competing with CrossFit.

Oh,

we're going to have an affiliate system.

That was the biggest...

dagger in the heart of the

WFP by them trying to copy

the affiliate system of CrossFit.

It's one thing if you come

to compete with the sports side of it.

I don't think people are as

ingrained into the sports

side as we think they are,

but they are so ingrained

into the methodology and

the affiliate system.

that is where you made the

biggest mistake.

And by jumping in and saying

that you were going to be, um,

not competing and then find out that, Hey,

we're trying to sign up

these affiliates and pull

people away from CrossFit.

That's where you lost it.

Okay.

Eric Mackey,

any bait and switch is concerning,

but multiple times bad.

And they did it over and

over and over again.

So Will can be as nice as he wants.

If he's being nice with lies,

you're just digging

yourself a deeper hole.

Fergie, Wooly is a failed podcaster.

He can call it whatever he wants,

but it will cease before

the end of the year.

I thought he was dead on accurate.

And whatever you want to say he is,

I felt like at its best,

it's a farm league right now.

At its best.

And I'm not saying they're

going to be at their best.

I think there's a lot of

evidence that they haven't

been at their best.

But he is dead on that that

is what they are right now at their best.

And you could see Mesa like deflate.

And you could see almost a

light bulb go on with Kate.

And that created some really

interesting tension at the

end of this video that they put out.

A used car smells good for a

couple months when you first buy it,

just like WFP.

I'm not sure they ever smelled good.

The execution errors are a lot.

And trust me,

CrossFit has done them as well.

But you as did the WFP have

had the benefit of watching

CrossFit make the mistakes first.

So you shouldn't have made

the same mistakes.

You shouldn't have gone down

the same road.

It's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous.

So Vindicate says WFP can

appear to be better by

paying athletes large sums

and giving volunteers free stuff.

That will only last so long

if you aren't making a profit.

Once that ends, everybody will be upset.

Well,

I also think it's setting an

unreasonable expectation

that you can keep this going.

Now, whether they make a profit or not,

I don't think they care right now.

I think they're just

throwing good money over

bad to try to beat CrossFit.

But like I said, you can't buy legacy.

You can't buy the rich

history of an eight-time female champion.

You can't buy Matt Frazier

being the most dominant CrossFitter ever.

You can't buy...

the goat Rich Froning and

what he's done for a

community and for the sport.

You can't buy that stuff.

So it doesn't matter how

much money you throw at that.

CrossFit will always have that upper hand.

And new athletes will always

want to compete in the same

venues that those legends

have already done so.

A farm league is to develop

players for big leagues.

WFP is where most athletes

who can't win the games

anymore go to have fun.

Or it's for like the up and

coming semifinal athletes.

Since we've really wrecked

the semifinal season, the regional season,

there's no place for those

younger athletes to get reps in.

I think that's where it kind

of becomes something different.

um if it can and like I said

that's only at its best

it's only at its best wfp

needs at least two seasons

before fair evaluation

And this is another thing.

Everybody's like, everybody's so critical.

Everybody's so critical.

You're a new league.

You want people talking about you.

Now,

do you want it to be for better things?

Sure.

But people are talking about you.

You're getting media

attention that most startups don't get.

It's up to you to take advantage of that.

It's up to you to change minds.

And

one from a storytelling

point of view I don't think

they've done that um and

they've had other

opportunities and the mist

and missed out on tour stop

two should have been better

than tour stop one and I'm

not sure that it totally

was from it a viewing um is

from a viewing experience

or from a mistake experience

I also wanted to show this here.

I've been barking up this

tree that the storyline is

Who is above the line and

who's below the line for the pro cards?

Finally, someone did it,

and it was morning chalk up.

It wasn't even the WFP.

It was morning chalk up,

and they list them out,

like James Sprague and Amy

Kringle are winning their divisions.

Several veteran pro card athletes,

including Jeff Adler, Travis Mayer,

Yonikoski, Emily Rolfe, Paige Semenza,

are below the red line.

Finally, someone said it.

other than me.

What I love is that the

minute you're critical about them,

they are just on the

full-on attack that you

shouldn't be critical.

I've been critical about two

areas with them,

and I've been constructive

in my criticism.

And instead of listening,

they just want to yell and scream back.

attendance seemed lower,

vendor village smaller,

participation lower.

How is tour stop two an improvement?

I don't think it was.

And that's a big miss on their part.

They get way more attention than grid.

They do,

but they're not taking advantage

of it in a positive way.

The main issue or

misunderstanding is that

CrossFit is not a league.

It's a one single event that

has qualification system in

place to get the best.

Anyone is welcome.

That's the difference.

It's okay to have different

formats in a season.

And I think it would have

been okay if they would

have just came in and

competed as a sport entity

to try something different.

Where they pissed everybody

off is when they went after

the affiliates.

That's where... Before that,

I wanted to see,

could a different season structure work?

And they keep blowing every opportunity.

And then when they went

after the affiliates,

then everybody was pissed.

So...

Ken says,

no one wanted to give WFP a shot

more than Scott on day one.

I'm sure other people wanted

to give it more of a shot than me.

But, you know,

the critics of me when I'm

critical of the WFP say

that I've given up before

the season is over.

Well,

I don't need to be punched in the face.

Sixteen times to know not to

get punched in the face.

Seventeen, eighteen and nineteen.

Grin understands and accepts

what they are.

WFP is trying to be like CrossFit.

WFP is trying to beat CrossFit.

And the problem is they

didn't just come out and say that.

If they would have come out and said that,

maybe more people would

have respect for it.

But no, they hid behind things.

And there it is.

But I didn't want to devote

this whole show to WFP.

I just wanted to talk about

what their show was like.

And when they say things like,

maybe we don't want to hear

the criticism and we want

to do it the way we want to do it.

Well, that's all fine and good.

But if nobody's watching now

because you're doing it

your way and not what the

spectator wants to see, good luck.

Good luck at all.

Anyway,

I want to get on to something else.

because Rich Froning was on

coffee pods and wads

yesterday and Peter did an

excellent job in that interview.

Um, a couple points that came out of that,

that I were almost,

I knew that rich was kind of in a,

I'm ready to kind of talk

mode when he was on Savan a

couple of weeks ago.

And then with Peter,

he just went the whole way.

So Peter asked him about his

relationship with Facundo and,

He did say that Facundo is

still on the payroll at mayhem,

but they have not talking.

They have not talked other

than a few run-ins at the

games and he called them run-ins,

not like, I don't know.

And they haven't texted in

months ever since the Malik situation.

So I found that very, very peculiar and,

Peter then posed a question to him.

If someone bought CrossFit

and they put people like

Dave in place and Dave said, hey,

let's get together and talk.

Would you be supportive of that?

And Rich said, no,

it's more cut and dry than that.

I would think,

where were you eight years ago,

fifteen years ago to have

these discussions?

Which I found was very interesting.

And he said, well,

then who would you trust in

those positions?

And he said, someone from here.

All of that was...

It was that last piece of

the puzzle that we got the

beginning of with Siobhan

and Peter pounded it home

and got us the answers that

I think we were all looking for,

but almost now scared to

know that that is where he is at.

It appears that Rich's trust

in the people either

currently in position or

trying to buy CrossFit are

not the people that he trusts anymore.

He is done trusting them,

and he will only trust the

people in his inner circle.

And he wants a position at the table.

He just doesn't want to be the CEO.

He doesn't want the everyday job.

He just wants someone to

allow him a seat at the

table to say how he feels.

And I thought that that was...

pretty telling interview that Peter got.

And if you have not seen that,

you need to go check that out.

Probably the last twenty

minutes of that podcast are

freaking phenomenal.

Do you think Rich is using

his situation to break away from HQ?

I think that Rich is making

a power play to say,

If you want your CrossFit,

your future CrossFit to be successful,

I better be involved.

And we better have people in

place that I trust.

Yes, Jenny hit it right there.

Felt like an ultimatum.

If you are going to buy

CrossFit and you want it to be successful,

you better have me involved.

uh david reed rich is not

wrong though jody drama I

am here for it yeah peter

has been killing it lately

his jason ainsley interview

and his rich interview must

must see television this week

Jeff Paco,

if you're looking to buy CrossFit,

this is a big deterrent.

I think it is.

I think it's either you get

on board with Rich in some

way or he is going to flex

his power and make it a

difficult proposition to

make it successful once you're here.

The only caveat that was

kind of like a bit of

leniency on the ultimatum

was that we would stay

affiliated if our athletes

needed it in order to

qualify for the CrossFit

Games or to qualify for

their season or whatever that might be.

That was the only caveat of like...

But he said, if we did that,

you would not see the

CrossFit name on the door

or on the signs.

Aren't Dave and Rich working

on a service cup together?

I think they can work on an

event together.

And maybe, I don't even know if,

my guess is if CrossFit's

doing it any way that

they've been doing lately,

they just handed it over to

Mayhem to run.

Oh, damn, that's interesting.

I still don't think Mayhem

Fitness can replace CrossFit.

I still think they need

power of the word CrossFit,

just in my opinion.

It all depends on who the

buyer is and what their plan is.

I mean,

I think that he may not be able to

replace CrossFit,

but he can be a hell of a disruptor.

How many affiliates does Mayhem have?

So from what I understand,

and this is really just preliminary,

is that they have about a

thousand official Mayhem affiliates,

but four thousand

affiliates that do their programming.

So they have some influence

at different levels

depending on what level

that affiliate has signed up with.

Sabrina,

I haven't watched Rory and Angelo

on the CrossFit podcast.

Have you?

I have not.

I have a hard time with the

CrossFit podcast.

It's edited.

It seems sterile.

Um,

the ones that I've enjoyed are when

like Hobart goes live.

Um, but the ones that are produced,

I'm really having a hard

time getting through.

I just feel like it's,

it's been edited or cleaned

up or something.

And, and once that happens,

I'm not sure that I

completely trust the conversation.

My question from it then is

what does he really want?

Who in their staff does he want to be CEO?

I'm betting that he is.

And Peter tried to go there.

That a lot of people have

signed NDAs and there's

been a lot of conversations

in the background.

And Peter said,

have people come to you and talked?

And Rich said, yes,

there have been conversations.

So my thing is he's talking

to these people.

They are going to be talking

to him before they make the purchase.

which in case the,

none of it matters because

they are still affiliated.

They are still affiliated, but yeah,

I mean,

it's still going to be a disruptor and it,

it,

do you want rich talking about how

great CrossFit is,

or do you want him talking

about how great mayhem is?

Um, I think you want probably the former,

Um, no offense to Richard mayhem,

but I just left the gym

after a year that I loved because of the,

the mayhem affiliate program is,

is extremely basic, redundant, and lazy.

Uh,

it felt like at four or OTC orange

theory.

Um, I don't know.

What is the TLDR of the car?

I'm sorry, Barry.

I don't know what TLDR is.

I'm old.

I'm not good at acronyms anymore.

I think about the affiliates,

vindicates dead on.

Only Mayhem knows how many

affiliates they have,

and the numbers are probably inflated.

Ernie Garza says the

programming has gradually gotten better.

One hundred percent about

the CrossFit podcast.

Same Scott, yeah.

Sorry, I'm way behind on comments.

You guys are just blowing it up.

David Reed,

if I was looking at the business,

I'd be talking to Rich for sure.

I think you have to at this point.

I think he's flexing the

muscles that he has to make

it known that he has some influence.

If it sells to Malik,

they will have more than CrossFit.

Yeah.

His philosophies now, like if I don't,

I think that would be one

of the worst decisions to

sell to Malik at this point.

Mayhem won't make or break CrossFit.

Poor management and

ownership by CrossFit will end CrossFit.

Well,

I think that's what Rich is implying.

That he's only going to pull

this string if he feels the

latter part of your statement.

uh jenny give him the

advisory role he wants but

he doesn't want a dave ceo

it has to be someone at

mayhem so then who I need

that follow-up question

asked yeah I think I think

that peter tried but that

was a that was a piece of

the story that he didn't uh

want to give up

Who at Mayhem is qualified

for the CEO position?

I don't know their inner workings.

So I don't really know.

I have no idea.

And I don't know who Rich is

connected to that maybe

isn't directly at Mayhem.

But he did say here.

So I don't know.

That'd be weird.

I don't know.

Yep.

Rich said mayhem, not a chaff.

He isn't mayhem from what I

know he is not.

And Chaffee was part of

those Malik discussions.

And so I don't know what blew all that up.

We don't know.

We just know that Rich did a

full one-eighty from supporting Malik,

Chaffee, Facundo,

and now that's flipped a

hundred and eighty and he's

walking it back and he's

not talking to Facundo.

He says that Malik's a nice guy,

but not the right person for the job.

And I'm assuming that that

will include Chaffee in

that group because he was

part of that group initially.

I don't think, I know you're asking Jenny,

but I don't think Austin is CEO material.

I think what Austin has done has been,

he's been an awesome programmer.

He's helped run an affiliate for Reebok,

and he ran the affiliates for, what,

a couple years at CrossFit.

Wayne Short,

people forget that the

methodology will live on

with or without the success of CrossFit.

I think Rich said that as

much yesterday on that interview.

That he believes that we're

all doing the methodology

and that methodology is

going to continue forward

regardless of who's in charge of an HQ.

I've told my clients to get

ready to leave my services

soon as CrossFit is being sold,

and I can't possibly coach

them if it's not the right

owner in charge.

Facundo doesn't want to be CEO,

or so I've heard.

David Johnson,

I think that whoever ends up

running CrossFit has the

opportunity to right the

ship and make all this null and void.

It sounds like Rich is

posturing in case the new

owner runs it further into the ground.

I think he's taken it a step

further this time.

I think he's been patient

and he just doesn't want,

he's just not willing to be

patient anymore.

uh mayhem he did mention

austin has been in almost

every role within crossfit

I know that austin's been

in a lot of roles I just

don't think he's been like

upper upper and but maybe

that's okay maybe that's

something different it's

less I don't know

barry says that austin has

worked for h at hq for

fifteen years that's a

little bit misleading

because a lot of that time

was on seminar staff um

austin ran his own reebok

one affiliate in I want to

say boston him and spencer

and then they had the ham

programming with him

spencer and hobart um

And then that got purchased

as CrossFit affiliate programming.

And they came on to do the

programming for that.

Then he went into an

affiliate advisory role

under Jay Dacoons.

So even when he was in that role,

he was under Jay Dacoons

for that time period.

And we actually had Austin on our show,

gosh, maybe a year ago.

And he explains all of that in that show.

We need another podcast with

Rich for Jenny's follow-ups.

We do.

And Jake says that Daniel

Chaffee is a decent karaoke singer.

That's good to know.

One of the criteria to be

the CEO to run CrossFit.

Isn't the CEO just the face

the board makes the real decisions?

It all depends on the structure.

Sometimes the CEO is a

tiebreaker in board votes,

which could give them a

little bit more power,

but it's all how you

structure your board and

how much power you give the CEO.

Now Jeff Beko is getting crazy.

Uh, Joe,

John Wooley has a business

background in a long time

affiliate owner.

Maybe he's a good candidate for CEO, um,

business background.

He's a banker.

It's,

it's a different business than like

most businesses like this.

Um,

So anyway, I found that fascinating.

I found that fascinating.

And if you have not seen that interview,

you need to go check it out for sure.

So there.

In a few months,

they can probably just have

ChapGPT as the CEO.

It's my fear that we may

already be heading down that road, David.

I can't believe like where I work,

how much they use chat GPT.

We're not allowed to use chat GPT.

We have to use other AI functions,

but like they're promoting

using AI where I work now.

I hate it.

It is so bad at writing what

we have to write.

So bad.

So anyway, with that, man,

this forty five minutes has

flown freaking by.

You guys are awesome.

There's some things going on today.

I know Suze is on the glint

and things later today.

I get what the programming

is going to do an

evaluation of the age group

programming later today.

And then I think this weekend.

Mesa and Kate are going to

be on with the Clinton that's tomorrow.

So lots still going on.

NFL season keeps going tonight.

We have the chiefs and the

chargers in Brazil tonight,

and then a full slate of games on Sunday.

Um, but yeah,

I'm heading to Montana in a week.

So I got to take my dog to

my mom's house for sitting purposes, uh,

this weekend.

So I'm going to make a quick

trip to PA drop Walter off

there and then head back for next week.

And then we are flying to

see my daughter out in Montana,

but we're going to keep the show going.

So it's going to be fun.

Corey says, CEO needs to be a CrossFitter,

someone who has bathed in

the blood of Daily WOD,

someone who has had or

currently has Fran Lung.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Joseph Ramirez, if it's artificial,

it isn't intelligent.

If it's intelligent, it isn't artificial.

Amen, brother.

Walter for CEO.

He's a son of a bitch, man.

I'm telling you.

I don't think you'd want him.

If you think Dave Castro is a prick,

Walter is way worse than that.

Just for Ramirez,

Mesa isn't going to survive

the comment section with the glintons.

She is.

I mean, she's strong in her beliefs,

and she doesn't let anybody

change her mind.

And she just keeps barreling forward.

She's going to survive the comments.

It's going to be us that are

going to be pulling our hair out.

I'm betting you.

With that, guys,

I hope you have a great

rest of your day and into the weekend.

Enjoy the rest of the stuff out there.

Get with the programming.

Glintons.

Tons of stuff going on.

With that,

I got to go get my eyes checked.

And then I'm heading to Pennsylvania.

With that,

you guys have a great weekend or

get back to work,

whatever it is you need to do.

See you guys next or on

Sunday night for Sunday

Night CrossFit Talk.

Bye, guys.